our great nation needs you. all young conservatives who support the iraq war, please go here www.goarmy.com/ and join up immediately to help fight the war on terror. as you know, our military is stretched to the breaking point. only when patriotic conservatives like yourselves join up will we be able to turn the corner, tip the point, and break the back of the foreign terrorists and baathists remnants and dead-enders in that vital outpost of freedom. please join now to serve your nation!
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Mon, June 27, 2005 - 5:59 AMother no so great nations need you. all young Liberals who support peace and foreign aid , please go here www.peacecorps.gov and join up immediately to help fight the war on poverty. as you know, children's stomachs are stretched to the breaking point. only when sympathetic liberals like yourselves join up will we be able to turn the corner, tip the point, and break the cycle of capitalism and poverty stricken remnants and dead-enders in that vital outpost of humanity. please join now to serve your conscience. -
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Mon, June 27, 2005 - 11:02 AMDTOM, I know you know some young conservatives. maybe even your children. why won't you join me in enlisting young conservatives to fight terrorism?!?
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Tue, June 28, 2005 - 7:51 AMNow wait a minute. I'm confused.
Less than 10% of servicemen are in combat arms. What if someone's in MI or a cook. Would that count? If not, transport are sometimes more vulnerable in Iraq than actual combat units, so maybe transport's the only role to get.
Servicewomen are not in combat arms. You'd disqualify women from satisfying your demand?
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Thu, June 30, 2005 - 5:32 PMno, anybody who signs up is good in my book. but the fact is, spoiled young pro-war republicans don't sign up, they sit on their asses.
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Mon, June 27, 2005 - 10:17 PMsets, you're able bodied. you're the right age too. why don't you march your sorry ass down to the army recruting office and tell 'em you wanna go kill some terrorists?
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Tue, June 28, 2005 - 5:07 PMActually I was turned down because of my "sorry ass" scholiosis and the chronic back problems associated with it. But my brother is there. And I support his decision to go. You like having the freedom to bite the hand that feeds, don't you? and all without risking a thing.....
Here's a question, Are you for legalization of drugs? If so, why aren't you on the street slangin'? or If you support Firemen or Police, why don't you join up? Are you into martial arts films? If so, Then why aren't you a stuntman?
See how dumb that sounds? about as idiotic as your "sorry ass" sounds. Grow a brain and stop trolling.
And why aren't you speaking on this topic in the *politics* forum? where there seems to be a lot more discussion about this.
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Tue, June 28, 2005 - 5:11 PMHey C-Dumb, I mean Dub-
Here's that *politics* thread, just to get you started on your comments. There are at least 70 posts for your viewing pleasure on this topic alone.
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Tue, June 28, 2005 - 10:00 PMits just amazing how every young conservative on tribe has some medical condition.
but you guys are doing your duty banging on keyboards - carry on, soldier!
oh, and your examples make no sense.
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Mon, June 27, 2005 - 9:32 AMWhile the Bush Administration and the military are desperately searching for an exit strategy in Iraq, it looks like the insurgents have a pretty clear road map for victory.
They are looking at two important indicators for winning this war. One, that the U.S. military doesn't have any more troops to send. And two, that according to the U.S. military recruiting numbers, fewer and fewer Americans are willing to volunteer to fight.
Given these two facts, the insurgents know all they have to do is keep up their current activities for another year or so and they will win. There is no sign that they are having problems recruiting fighters the same way the U.S. Army and Marines are.
In the end, the political rhetoric and opinion polls mean nothing. If Americans aren't signing up to fight the war, then it's over.
That's the reality of a volunteer armed forces.
Our military is geared for quick strikes and quick victories. The current recruiting situation points out the problem that long, drawn-out slugfests pose for volunteer armies.
There was a spike in recruiting after 9/11 and during the initial operations in Afghanistan. People understood that our country was attacked and we needed to fight back.
But Iraq is a different story. The case for going to war there was weak to start with, and is getting weaker all the time.
And while a significant number of Americans support the war, they aren't willing to make the sacrifice to go and fight it.
If you are one of those who supports the war, ask yourself this question. Why don't you sign up to fight it, or urge your children or others who are capable to serve to sign up? If you aren't willing to do that, then do you really support the war? Does that yellow ribbon on your car really mean anything?
If this war isn't worth interrupting your current civilian life to go and fight, perhaps it's not worth fighting.
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Tue, June 28, 2005 - 7:53 AM<<While the Bush Administration and the military are desperately searching for an exit strategy in Iraq, it looks like the insurgents have a pretty clear road map for victory.>>
Interesting that you seem to enjoy that possibility. -
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Tue, June 28, 2005 - 1:18 PMactually an artificial exit strategy is a sure fire way to hand the insurgents their victory. Our exit strategy is clear, we leave when the Iraqi government tells us to leave. -
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Tue, June 28, 2005 - 11:48 PMso you seriously believe that if the iraqi gov't told the US to leave now, we'd leave? please. the goal is permanent bases. -
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Wed, June 29, 2005 - 8:11 AM<<please. the goal is permanent bases.>>
Which we need, for the Terror War. Where's the problem with that? -
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Wed, June 29, 2005 - 8:46 AMwe need that for empire-building reasons. mainly to control middle east and north asian energy supplies, a pretty consistent goal since FDR's time. this has nothing to do with stopping terror. in fact, the us invasion and occupation of iraq is most likely to increase terror against the US according to most experts. -
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Wed, June 29, 2005 - 12:12 PMwho are these "experts" you speak of? -
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Wed, June 29, 2005 - 7:46 PMMichael Moore channeling Noam Chomsky? -
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Thu, June 30, 2005 - 9:54 AMits far leftists clearly. like David B. Low, the national intelligence officer for transnational threats, quotes below. i'm sure they're clutching their copies of Manufacturing Dissent while sipping lattes when they come up with this stuff:
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...13.html
raq New Terror Breeding Ground
War Created Haven, CIA Advisers Report
By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, January 14, 2005; Page A01
Iraq has replaced Afghanistan as the training ground for the next generation of "professionalized" terrorists, according to a report released yesterday by the National Intelligence Council, the CIA director's think tank.
Iraq provides terrorists with "a training ground, a recruitment ground, the opportunity for enhancing technical skills," said David B. Low, the national intelligence officer for transnational threats. "There is even, under the best scenario, over time, the likelihood that some of the jihadists who are not killed there will, in a sense, go home, wherever home is, and will therefore disperse to various other countries."
Low's comments came during a rare briefing by the council on its new report on long-term global trends. It took a year to produce and includes the analysis of 1,000 U.S. and foreign experts. Within the 119-page report is an evaluation of Iraq's new role as a breeding ground for Islamic terrorists.
President Bush has frequently described the Iraq war as an integral part of U.S. efforts to combat terrorism. But the council's report suggests the conflict has also helped terrorists by creating a haven for them in the chaos of war.
"At the moment," NIC Chairman Robert L. Hutchings said, Iraq "is a magnet for international terrorist activity." -
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Thu, June 30, 2005 - 9:54 AMoh, and PLEASE don't forget noted america-hater porter goss:
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Thu, June 30, 2005 - 2:14 PMcome on guys, please help me understand how porter goss is just another chomskyite america hater! he's a subversive, i just know it. -
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Fri, July 1, 2005 - 12:08 PMwhat porter goss said really doesn't support the entirety of your statement. most Everyone acknowledges that terrror activity has gone up, but it doesn't support you assertion that this war is a matter of empire building. -
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Fri, July 1, 2005 - 3:08 PMthe porter goss quote had to do with iraq acting as a training ground for terrorists.
as for empire building, just go read the PNAC stuff. its pretty clear whats going on. honestly anybody with any knowledge of foreign policy planning knows this thing was done for strategic positioning reasons by and large.
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Fri, July 1, 2005 - 1:46 PMSo cDub, do you also think this means that any one who hates crime has a responsibility to join the police and that people who don't are 'hypocrites'? -
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Fri, July 1, 2005 - 3:09 PMif the police were strapped for personnel, having to call up retirees, and crime were rampant, yes. thats an analogous situation to our current iraq quagmire.
of course, the police are not in a crisis state so no theres no need for everyone who dislikes crime to sign up.
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Fri, July 1, 2005 - 3:16 PM<<if the police were strapped for personnel, having to call up retirees, and crime were rampant, yes. thats an analogous situation to our current iraq quagmire.
of course, the police are not in a crisis state so no theres no need for everyone who dislikes crime to sign up. >>
Really? The police currently have enough personnel to respond to crime on a timely basis? There are no neighborhoods where they take 15-30 minutes to respond to a crime call?
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Fri, July 1, 2005 - 4:20 PMbottom line, our troops are in a total quagmire of bush's making. you bush backers are too yellow to join up. -
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Fri, July 1, 2005 - 4:29 PM(snicker)
Run out and play in the street, kid. We have matters of import to discuss here and you'd just be frightfully confused without Michael Moore to tell you what to think. -
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Fri, July 1, 2005 - 4:35 PMwww.craigslist.com/sby/pol/81348280.html
"Frankly, I want to be a politician. I'd like to survive to see that," said Vivian Lee, 17, a war supporter visiting the convention from Los Angeles,
"If there was a need presented, I would go," said Chris Cusmano, a 21-year-old member of the College Republicans organization from Rocky Point, N.Y. But he said he hasn't really considered volunteering.
"I physically probably couldn't do a whole lot" in Iraq, said Tiffanee Hokel, 18, of Webster City, Iowa, who called the war a moral imperative. She knows people posted in Iraq, but she didn't flinch when asked why she wouldn't go.
"I think I could do more here," Hokel said, adding that she's focusing on political action that supports the war and the troops.
"We don't have to be there physically to fight it," she said.
Similarly, 20-year-old Jeff Shafer, a University of Pennsylvania student, said vital work needs to be done in the United States. There are Republican policies to maintain and protect and an economy to sustain, Shafer said.
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